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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: May 14, 2010 3:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: the 4/15/70 jam

I find it interesting that we both share the same taste in the music of the Grateful Dead and love the same shows, however we frequently hear very different things coming out of the speakers.

In this case I would say with 100% certainty that there is a third percussionist on the stage during the first drum break. The sound of congas is unmistakeable.

I think many of Corry342's theories on who the conguero and other guest musicians might be during this jam are certainly plausable. The organist may or may not be Pigpen, and surely Weir is one of the participants. But though I cant honestly say that I can make out a third guitarist. The highly saturated sound of the jam and it's very unique nature indicate to me that there is likely another rhythm guitarist sitting in.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: May 14, 2010 4:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: the 4/15/70 jam

Maybe you can help me - I'm willing to believe there could be congas, but I can't hear them; at what point do they come in? The drums I am hearing just sound like toms.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: May 14, 2010 5:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: the 4/15/70 jam

I hear the congas intermittently from the beginning of the first drum break through the entire jam segment. Most noteably mirroring the toms at around 0:30, 2:20 and 3:50.

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Poster: midnightcarousel Date: May 14, 2010 9:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: the 4/15/70 jam

Sorry, I still think you're crazy :) All I hear are two drum kits, and not even the slightest hint of congas. But since I seem stand alone on this point I guess I'll agree to disagree.

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Poster: vapors Date: May 14, 2010 10:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: the 4/15/70 jam

While after a couple of listenings I am inclined to agree with you, the presence of the other musicians at this show make it plausible that they may have jumped onstage for a moment or two. But although the drumming and the jamming are extremely compelling – I am thinking that what I hear could certainly be executed solely by the GD. They were that good. With all my expertise, I admit I am no expert. Fun stuff to ponder none the less.

Anyways just jumping in with the main intent of providing an easy link ( there is one other here) : http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-04-15.sbd.kaplan.14354.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: Skobud Date: May 15, 2010 9:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: the 4/15/70 jam

I totally agree. You can absolutely hear congas, even on PC speakers. I have been saying for years I thought it was Jose Areas or Mike Carabello sitting in. Regarless of opinions, I still call it Santana Jam. Go back and listen to Abraxis, this jam sounds identical stylistically...